FILE PHOTO: State Sen. Kristin Phillips-Hill, R-York, (left) speaks in support of Senate Bill 60, also known as the “Buyer Beware Act,” during a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Jan. 14, 2020. Also pictured, from left: state Rep. Paul Schemel, R-Franklin, Rep. Sheryl Delozier, R-Cumberland, Rep. Todd Stephens, R-Montgomery and Rep. Matt Dowling, R-Fayette/Somerset.
Photo courtesy of Phillips-Hill chief of staff Jon Hopcraft
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(Harrisburg) -– Republican state lawmakers are mulling changes to Pennsylvania’s election law this session. They say that effort is aimed at improving the process for the state’s upcoming contests.
But many of them backed efforts to cast doubt on and overturn the election results — even though no evidence of fraud or irregularities existed that could have affected the outcome, according to multiple federal and state officials and judges across the country.
Of 76 lawmakers WITF contacted either directly or through press offices to ask why they backed actions that could have disenfranchised millions of Pennsylvanians, two responded.
One, Rep. Doyle Heffley (R-Carbon County), said he still thinks something went wrong in Pennsylvania. The other, Rep. Paul Schemel (R-Franklin County), is now wondering whether what he believes are legitimate procedural questions in Pennsylvania were mistakenly conflated with former President Donald Trump’s false claim that the election was rigged or stolen.
Letters that fed Trump’s election-fraud lie
In early December, 57 state representatives signed a letter asking Pennsylvania’s congressional delegation to object to the state’s Electoral College vote. An earlier letter had more signatories due to a “clerical error,” but an updated version clarified only 57 were putting their names to the effort. The following month, 19 state senators signed a different letter asking the group to delay certifying that vote.
Each said Gov. Tom Wolf, then-Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court interfered with or undermined state election law — by allowing things like drop boxes, ballot curing and an extended mail-in voting deadline.
A week after Election Day, House Speaker Bryan Cutler said the GOP majority was intent on doing what it could to look into and challenge those actions.
“We owe it to our voters to follow this through and ensure that they have confidence in the system, and if the system failed them, it needs corrected,” Cutler said.
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FILE PHOTO: House Majority Leader Bryan Cutler, R-Lancaster, speaks with members of the media at the state Capitol in Harrisburg, Pa., Friday, June 28, 2019.
“We had very few issues and those were just routine in nature and I think the public can be very confident and feel very good about how smooth the election went and feel confident about the results that came from it,” Schaefer said.
Had that effort succeeded, the votes of millions of Pennsylvanians would have been invalidated.
“I chose very specifically the things I wanted to sign onto.”
Rep. Doyle Heffley has served in the legislature since 2011. Like many who signed the objection or delay letters, he believed that the state had certified a suspect result, though there was no evidence to call Pennsylvania’s results into question.
“The point I [made] by signing that letter is that something was wrong here in Pennsylvania with what the Pa. Supreme Court did,” Heffley said. “Accepting ballots three days after the established legal deadline of 8 PM? That’s not a fair and honest election.”
To the far left and right, various pieces of mail sorting equipment at the USPS Philadelphia Processing Plant, disassembled and ready to be sent to a scrap yard in August, according to a union source with knowledge of the process. In the middle, two views inside the Philadelphia Processing Plant.
“We can’t change the outcome of an election. We don’t have any authority to do that. But the U.S. House delegation, they do have the authority to question and challenge the electors,” he said. “That’s within their constitutional authority and I think they should have. I wish we would have seen more of that.”
via Pa. House GOP Press Office, used with permission.
Rep. Doyle Heffley (R-Carbon County)
Heffley said he believed by asking for all of those things, he could help restore confidence in the election system for those who were losing it.
But fact-checking groups like Politifact report lawmakers helped create that mistrust by repeating claims about impropriety that didn’t hold up. In effect, they supported Trump’s election-fraud lie that led to the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
Though Heffley said he condemns the violence that happened that day, the state representative said he doesn’t feel any responsibility for what happened.
“Because we’re questioning a change to the law that was made back in September? That I questioned back in September? No.”
Responsibility, Heffley said, rests with forces well beyond the legislature’s control.
“I think this was building for a long time because of the political rhetoric and because of actions like we’ve seen from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.”
One other reminder: the Court — made up of justices elected by Pennsylvania voters — performed its constitutional duty by interpreting the state’s election law.
“I’ve spent a lot of time in introspection.”
Rep. Paul Schemel has served in the state House since 2015. He said he’s been reflecting a lot about the past few months, including why he signed the objection letter.
“In my own introspection, I think, ‘What were my own sort of words and comments that I used from the day of the election forward, and when is speech insightful and when is speech inciting?'” Schemel said.
Schemel said he doesn’t believe state lawmakers contributed to the environment that led to Jan. 6. He said he told a number of constituents who called him alleging voter fraud that without proof, their claims wouldn’t hold up.
“I think to myself, ‘Are there things that I could have said that could have made that point clearer?’” he said. “But I would have never, never in my mind, imagined that we would have individuals in our country that would do the irresponsible things that occurred on January 6th.”
via Jennifer Fitch / Pa. House GOP
Rep. Paul Schemel (R-Franklin County) attends a House State Government committee hearing on Jan. 28, 2021
But state lawmakers were complaining about procedural problems they said led to an invalid election results, when independent authorities concluded there was no evidence to support that. Even U.S. Senator Pat Toomey, one of Pennsylvania’s most prominent Republicans, acknowledged invalidating the state’s votes over those complaints was out of line.
“Even if Congress did have the constitutional responsibility to judge the worthiness of a state’s election process, which it does not, rejecting Pennsylvania’s electoral votes would still be wildly out of proportion to the purported offenses and very damaging to our Republic,” Toomey said before the Capitol attack.
Schemel was asked if he thought mixing procedural questions that would not have affected the result, and claims that the state’s results should be overturned, was irresponsible.
“I agree that the conflation of the two is problematic. If an individual is going to consume news and they in their own minds conflate these things…to them they’re all in a line with the same mission, but maybe they aren’t,” he said.
But Schemel acknowledged, for better or worse, the state’s electoral process is fair and voters should trust it.
“Our election system is not perfect. We’re going to try and make it better. But I think our election system does work and we do have a lot of very dedicated people in all of our counties…very much dedicated to making those elections good.”
Northampton Community College political science professor Sam Chen has been thinking about what all of this means going forward.
He points out the commonwealth’s Republican party is already facing consequences for what happened.
“Republicans have made very good gains in the last several years, and you’re starting to see those people leave the party,” Chen said.
“There’s a divide within the party and there’s certainly people leaving the party. I think that reckoning is coming if the GOP doesn’t figure out their identity and quickly,” Chen said.
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Rep. Doyle Heffley of Carbon County and Rep. Paul Schemel of Franklin County were among the Republican state legislators who supported Donald Trump’s 2020 election-fraud lie by signing a letter urging members of Congress to object to Pennsylvania’s electoral votes going to Joe Biden. That lie led to the attack on the Capitol.
Heffley has defended his action. Schemel now says voters can trust the state’s electoral system, but he does not disavow the claims made in the letter.
Robin Kolody, a political science professor at Temple University, said that identity crisis is showing. Republican lawmakers are wrestling with whether to hold fast to Trump and his political brand as the consequences for the Jan. 6 attack, and all that led up to it, continue to mount.
“To be honest with you, I don’t really get what the long game is,” Kolody said. “I foresee a not-so-good future for the Republican party. I think that this is a time when their moderate wing and their far-right wing are going to have to reconcile or they’ll have to divorce.”
It’s not likely any of the 76 lawmakers who signed letters contesting the 2020 election will face consequences at home. Chen says most are from districts that strongly backed President Trump, who spearheaded this whole effort to begin with.
What’s more: some feel emboldened to further change state election rules.
At least two legislative panels have dedicated themselves to studying election processes and “making them better.” One is the House State Government committee, chaired by Rep. Seth Grove (R-York County). The other is a bipartisan special committee appointed by Senate President pro tempore Jake Corman.
“This is not about 2020. This is not about 2019 or 2018,” Grove said during his committee’s first election-related hearing. “This is about moving forward to make sure we’re all on the same page and have the best product for our constituents moving forward.”
Some lawmakers on those committees want to tighten the rules for future elections and have even moved forward with an idea to require judges to be elected by district instead of statewide. That would impact the state Supreme Court and could tip the balance of power in favor of the GOP.
But Sam Chen said despite the group’s efforts to move past what happened after the 2020 election, one thing remains unavoidable.
“It is the height of hypocrisy here to object to an election in your state that you won,” Chen said.
The following state lawmakers either declined WITF’s interview request or were unable to be reached directly:
Senate President pro tem Jake Corman shared a brief explanation of his actions through a spokeswoman.
Kim Ward, Senate majority leader
Sen. Judy Ward
Sen. Kristin Phillips-Hill
Sen. Mike Regan
Sen. David Argall
Sen. Ryan Aument
Sen. Doug Mastriano
Sen. Joe Pittman
Sen. Pat Stefano
Sen. Camera Bartolotta
Sen. Gene Yaw
Sen. Bob Mensch
Sen. Michele Brooks
Sen. Scott Hutchinson
Sen. Wayne Langerholc
Sen. Mario Scavello
Sen. Scott Martin
Sen. Devlin Robinson
Sen. Dave Arnold, deceased
Sen. Cris Dush
Speaker of the House, Rep. Bryan Cutler and House majority leader, Rep. Kerry Benninghoff, have both discussed their actions at multiple press events, but did not agree to a one-on-one interview.