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Justice reforms are moving incrementally through the state Senate

Written by Katie Meyer, Capitol Bureau Chief | Apr 25, 2018 4:29 AM
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The chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee is trying to push through a raft of justice system changes, but often sees opposition from his own party. (Photo by AP)


(Harrisburg) -- A GOP-controlled state Senate committee is making slow, careful progress at changing Pennsylvania's justice system to focus on reforming the convicted and reducing prison populations.

The effort is led by the GOP Committee Chair Stewart Greenleaf, who is trying to pass as many justice overhaul proposals as possible before his retirement at the end of the year.

Greenleaf, of Bucks County, often acknowledges that his desire to change the system came later in his long career, after years of taking a tough-on-crime approach.

"The system we have now doesn't work," he said. "It's a failure. Because punishment without rehabilitation is a failure."

He said now, he's working to coax his GOP colleagues in the same direction.

"It's a slow process. But it's an education process," he said. "I know they all say, 'well this is terrible, we're siding with the defendant.' We're not siding with the defendant. Justice is justice--it's a two-edged sword. It's not just one way all the way, because you make mistakes when you do that."

Most recently, the Judiciary Committee narrowly passed a measure Tuesday to let judges assign community service if convicted people prove they can't afford fines, court costs, or restitution.

Republican Senator Guy Reschenthaler of Allegheny County said the move would help keep people out of jail. Often when a person fails to make a court-mandated payment, a judge can hold them in contempt, which can lead to time behind bars.

"It's unconstitutional to send somebody to jail because they cannot afford to pay a fine. We no longer have debtors' prisons," he said.

He added, these jail terms typically end up costing the state more than the initial fine.

A number of Senators contested the measure--with some arguing it is particularly improper to allow community service as a replacement for restitution.

"I guarantee you there are a lot of people who are low-income, who commit a crime against other low-income people who have done nothing wrong, who are struggling every day. They're going to take a loss," Allegheny County Republican Randy Vulakovich said.

Recently, the full Senate also passed two Greenleaf bills. One would give inmates more time to appeal convictions, and the other would expand DNA testing.

The Senator said all told, there are 20 bills on his agenda.

A number have made it through the Judiciary panel, and sit in other committees or before the full Senate.

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