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Tuesday, 10 May 2011 12:15

Real Life Real Issues -- an insider view of Marcellus Shale gas drilling

Written by  Scott LaMar, Director of Radio Smart Talk

Radio Smart Talk for Wednesday, May 11:

The issues surrounding Marcellus Shale natural gas drilling could have more impact on Pennsylvania's future than any other before the public and decision-makers today.  The state's economy, environment, and infrastructure all could be altered forever.  It is that significant.

There seem to be new revelations about Marcellus Shale in the media everyday, but what do those who don't live where wells are being drilled and gas extracted really know about the process and it's repercussions.

On Wednesday's program, we'll get the observations of David Thompson of the Williamsport Sun Gazette , who has reported on Marcellus Shale for the past four years.  What questions do you have?

 

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# Rochelle 2011-05-10 13:37
On July 1, 2010, the PA Dept of Ag released a press release stating they quarantined cattle at a Tioga Co farm after 28 cows came in contact with drilling wastewater. It states "Cattle are drawn to the taste of salty water" (so are deer) and the water contained many toxins/heavy metals that are toxic to humans, especially growing children. "The metal takes a long time to pass through an animal's system because it is preferentially deposited in bone and released in the body at varying rates dependent on age, growth status and other factors." The age of the cow/calf dictates the length it will be quarantined. Growing calves should be withheld from the food chain for 2 years. Grass was killed in 3 days where the wastewater pooled. Has anyone informed deer hunters and fisherman they can be consuming food tainted with toxic heavy metals and therefore exposing their family (born/unborn children) to serious health risks as a result of wastewater run-off, unfenced ponds and/or leakage?
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# Robert Colgan 2011-05-10 16:50
I think what is most alarming about all of this are the tactics of minimization, denial, and blame the drilling companies and advocates have been using.

For me that is pure red flag.

Especially worrisome is their constant mantra about the amount of water being used, and quantity of chemicals added and regurgitated ----one well is no big deal.
150,000 wells is a very big deal.
300,000 wells is very very big.

Texas is in severe and unrelenting drought, approaching dustbowl in places.
Yet,
of the metered sources in the four county Upper Trinity Groundwater Conservation District, Barnett Shale drillers used 1,146,598,272 gallons of water and paid .00022 cents per gallon in 2009. Many drillers took water from unmetered sources but there were no enforcement actions. That water is now gone.

And that is criminal in my book.
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# Jeremy 2011-05-10 20:25
Wow! Thank you Rochelle. A rather sobering fact I was unaware of. But then again I don't think such a fact would make for good reading in, "Field and Stream,". I will be going into Susquehanna County this weekend to visit the family farm and can assure you I will inform everyone I know whom are all avid outdoorsmen.
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# Robert Colgan 2011-05-11 09:18
There is a major rally planned for 12 noon Tuesday June 7th in Harrisburg at the Capitol Building to request a moratorium on the drilling by the legislators------until a major Environmental Impact Study has been done.

Everyone who understands the seriousness of this for Pennsylvania's health is requested to attend.

There will be meetings with key legislators 9-12 AM and 1-4 PM.

Please come if you are able.
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# Janet 2011-05-11 09:40
My farmer friends in Punxsutawney, Jefferson County, farming for
nearly 30 yrs. had their spring water go bad Nov. 2010. While they
were away for the weekend Gas companies came in & did seismic
testing. Thanksgiving week they came home to red bubbly mud in their
water system. They have had to replace their water ever since at
their own expense of $200-500 monthly. Their collie birthed 7
stillborn puppies. They have sent their children out of state to
attend college. Amish neighbors have had buggy & horse/truck
accidents. Horses have been killed by tanker trucks accidents. They
have witnessed tankers with the valves open driving by their homes in
this area. This family does not lease their land & don't want to,
however, their neighbors on either side have.
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# Janet 2011-05-11 09:46
More recently, this industry has changed hauling flowback frack fluid by tanker to wastewater treatment plants to now mixing the frack fluid with sawdust & transporting the waste to landfills by dump trucks. Landfills are now installing radioactivity monitoring equipment at the landfill sites to monitor the waste from drilling sites.
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# robin 2011-05-11 09:47
Finally a voice from the scene and from the fourth estate at that. (Pure imformation, minimal spin).
Good show Scott.
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# Janet 2011-05-11 10:04
People who are under a lease agreement cannot talk about their
situation for fear of lawsuit by the company they have a lease with.

There are plenty of people who are collateral damage that can & will
share their real life stories of what they are dealing with in the
affected areas.
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# Janet 2011-05-11 10:09
Halliburton was mentioned as having a cement business in the area. Halliburton was one of the companies that helped develop the hydraulic fracturing process to begin with. Halliburton was also one of the 3 major players in the Gulf Oil Spill accident recently, along with BP & Deepwater Horizon. And, of course, the connection of Halliburton/Dick Cheney and the 2005 Energy Commission headed by Cheney that made oil & gas industry exempt from the Clean Water & Clean Air Acts.
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# Rochelle 2011-05-11 10:17
David was well coached and did not say one negative thing about the gas drilling companies. I wonder why$$
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# Janet 2011-05-11 10:29
Regarding methane migration. Spelunkers & cavers beware. There is danger in your adventures in caves where drilling is taking place.

If you have family & friends involved in Scouting, Boys or Girls, they need to know this information as well.
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# Janet 2011-05-11 10:43
Each drill site uses 1.5 to 9 million gallons of water. Multiply that TIMES as many as 500,000 drilling sites TIMES each site may be fracked up to 18 TIMES!!!

This is "consumptive water" we are talkling about! Never to be considered water, rain, dew again!

It is not water in those containment ponds....it is a chemical laden toxic fluid waiting to be misted, evaporated, or hauled away.
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# Rochelle 2011-05-11 10:57
So what are you saying...
This toxic laden water is "misted" into the air to be carried over the landscape? Would these chemicals settle on human food sources and be ingested by humans and animals? How can this be safe? What about air quality for humans?
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# Rochelle 2011-05-11 11:04
David brought up about the gas drilling company doing night burns. He made it sound like it was a glamorous site to behold.

What are they burning? and why?
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# Jeremy 2011-05-11 12:21
Rochelle: They are burning off all of the gas that contains impurities that come back out of the ground with the gas. Just this past winter a rural town in Wyoming had higher OZONE levels than Los Angeles due to burn offs. It is said the gas here has fewer impurities and is virtually ready to go into the pipeline out of the ground so that shouldn't be an issue here. In warmer climates they burn off the natural gas in its entirety to access the oil underneath it.

Janet: The hydrologic cycle is a closed system meaning water can neither be created nor destroyed. Like it or not it will be rain and dew again. However the laws governing particle physics say that most of the chemicals and heavy metals involved in these processes are too heavy to make their way into the cycle.

For the record I am NOT an industry shill. These are facts that I have found through my own research. Keep it coming, "Smart Talk," I'm thirsty.
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# Janet 2011-05-11 19:51
Rochelle: Yes, in some areas there are "Super Misters" in containment ponds of this chemical mix of fluid misting into the air. You can "google earth" in Washington County, PA to view them for yourself.

Jeremy: With all due respect, I use the words of Dr. Sandra Steingraber, "Fracking constitutes consumptive water use, which is different from what happens to water when underground pipes leak and water re-enter the aquifer, or when irrigation leads to evaporation and cloud formation. When water is entombed in deep geological strata, a mile or more below the water table, it's permanently removed from the water cycle. As in, forever. It will never again ascend into the clouds, freeze into snowflakes, melt into rivulets, cascade over rocks, turn with the tide, soak into soil, rise through roots, or pour from your tap..... It's gone."
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