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Monday, 20 June 2011 14:18

Many don't let facts get in the way of their political opinions

Written by  Scott LaMar, Director of Radio Smart Talk

Radio Smart Talk for Tuesday, June 21:

It's inevitable – you're discussing politics with a friend, and you're shocked – SHOCKED – to learn she disagrees with you on something so obvious, so clear, you can hardly stand it! And you think to yourself, 'well, she's just misinformed. If she only knew the  facts, she'd feel differently.'

Not so, according to researchers at the University of Michigan, who in a series of studies in 2005 and 2006 found misinformed, politically partisan citizens, when corrected, rarely changed their minds. In fact, clear and unimpeachable evidence only served to make them dig in their heels and hold even more strongly to their beliefs!

Comedian Stephen Colbert defined this phenomenon as "truthiness" – a willingness to believe something that "feels true" even when it's clear it isn't.

We'll learn more when we talk with Dr. Brendan Nyhan, the outgoing Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in Health Policy Research at the University of Michigan (this summer, he heads to Dartmouth College to teach Government).

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# Robert Colgan 2011-06-21 09:34
What I heard from Dr. Nyhan in the opening remarks is that the held intellectual beliefs are based more on emotional processes than thought processes.... that the FEAR of losing the held belief supercedes the critical analysis of facts which do in fact overturn those beliefs.

Yep.

I agree.
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# Dale 2011-06-21 09:44
"A great many people think they are thinking when they are rearranging their prejudices."

William James
American psychologist, philosopher
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# Robin 2011-06-21 09:45
I want to know the exact wording of a question that was asked in a survey, of whom it was asked etc, rather than a reporter telling me his conclusion of the results of survey. Furthermore a textbook in a history course called "The American Spirit" on every event in american history at least three contemporary periodicals source were offered - for instance on the dropping of the Atomic Bomb they have reports from The Nippon Times, The Chicago Tribune and the Christian Science Monitor" the reader is allowed to get a broad sense of the event - respecting the reader by giving them a fuller view of the story.
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# Alison 2011-06-21 09:53
I wonder how distrust of intellectualism among conservatives (e.g., calling President Obama "elitist" when he's actually closer to middle class than most recent presidents have been) has affected the potential for real intelligent discussion of substantive issues. How does Sarah Palin reflect this bias? And how might honest debate be restored?
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# Dale 2011-06-21 10:05
Perhaps, in this technological era, the information glut phenomenon has much to do with what we now experience as an impotency of information. We no longer trust information, much of which is without source and context, and, as author/astronomer Clifford Stoll points out, there's a wide gulf between what we know and the infinite, readily-available data which bombards us daily and forms the basis of many of our most cherished opinions.

"Data is not information, information is not knowledge, knowledge is not understanding, understanding is not wisdom." Cliff Stoll
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# Robert Colgan 2011-06-21 10:06
I used to swap weekly drives to work with an older fellow and he took a route that I explained was a longer pathway than the route I took. . . . . which he denied .......and even after I showed him through comparison of odometer readings that his way was longer, he continued to use it. He said it was more comfortable for him.

I think a lot of the beliefs are just that: comfortable. They may not be the most accurate, they may even involve some extra steps, but they are a pattern of familiarity.
To challenge that familiarity is to ruffle their comfort zone.
Again, fear of loss of the familiar is the overriding conviction.
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# Scott LaMar 2011-06-21 13:58
Robert:
I had the exact situation with my mother. She had a home in Florida near Tampa. She insisted that the drive home to Central PA was shorter on Interstate 75 than on I-95. I also showed her the odometer and that the drive was about 90 minutes shorter on 95. It came down to her comfort level. She liked the scenary on I-75 better and the drive was less stressful. I usually took her home on 75 so she would be comfortable.
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# Robin 2011-06-21 10:09
I'm afraid it is a matter of who do you trust?
Frankly I listen to this radio station for a reason.
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# Jim 2011-06-21 10:52
Fascinating topic. How unfortunate that your phones weren't working.

My own view is that most peoples' world view and political opinions are developed at a time when their views are malleable. For some, this is during childhood and may be largely shaped by the views of their mother, father, or another influential person in their life. For others, this is during important times such as college.

Whenever it happens, their views are largely set in place from that time on. No amount of facts, persuasion, etc. is likely to change a person's core views once the person's period of malleability has passed.

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# Jim 2011-06-21 10:52
[continuation]

This is not particularly new phenomenon. People have been seeking out news media that support their preconceived notions for a long time. Look at the many newspapers and periodicals that strongly espoused a particular point of view during the 100s and 1800s. Channels like Fox News and MSNBC are just the latest manifestations of this.

I'd have been curious to get Prof. Nyhan's reactions to this.
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# Linda 2011-06-21 13:00
S. LaMar turned the discussion to Sarah Palin's comment on Paul Revere's ride. He lead the guest into agreement with nearly the entire media world in bashing what Palin had said. But if you go back to an NPR news story aired from Washington D.C. several days after the Palin comment, an history professor from an academic institution in Michigan was interviewed. He gave Sarah Palin credit for her correctness in the details of the comment she made.
Not all American history has been told correctly to us in school, nor with all the complicating details. I am neutral on Palin. S. LaMar usually seems lightweight and only partially prepared.
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# Scott LaMar 2011-06-21 13:53
Linda:
I would be interested to find a historian that agreed with Sarah Palin's statement that Paul Revere warned the British that they couldn't take the Colonists' arms or that Revere rang a bell (he didn't) or fired a warning shot (he didn't). I used the Palin-Revere episode as an example of someone who made an incorrect statement and had the opportunity to correct it but didn't or wouldn't. What made the story even more relevent is Palin supporters then went on Wikipedia to change the Revere narrative so it fit Palin's statement. The point being that we live in a such a partisan environment that a political figure's supporters were willing to falsify history so their candidate (maybe a candidate) wouldn't be embarrassed or seen to be wrong.
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# Scott LaMar 2011-06-21 14:08
This is the partial text of the NRP report referenced with Dr. Robert Allison of Suffolk University in Boston:

BLOCK: And let's review Paul Revere's midnight ride, April 18, 1775. He's going to Lexington, Massachusetts. And according to Sarah Palin, he's riding his horse through town, sending warning shots and ringing those bells. True?

Prof. ALLISON: Well, he's not firing warning shots. He is telling people so that they can ring bells to alert others. What he's doing is going from house to house, knocking on doors of members of the Committees of Safety, saying the regulars are out. That is, he knew that General Gage was sending troops out to Lexington and Concord, really Concord, to seize the weapons being stockpiled there, but also perhaps to arrest John Hancock and Samuel Adams, leaders of the Continental Congress who were staying in the town of Lexington.
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# Robert Colgan 2011-06-22 01:11
I believe that any discussion of Sarah Palin's grasp of anything historically or scientifically factual is akin to watching rugby on the radio.

Next time the phones go out, just have the person answering the phones record the questions on a portable digital device equipped with a flash drive memory card that could be transferred to the host for replay.
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# Carolyn 2011-06-22 10:48
Unfortunately you, as the media in general, fell into the trap of repeating the false information, and then stating that it simply wasn't proven. But, once again, the false information is repeated. The accurate information is not presented and elaborated on.

There needs to be a way to state the truth in a positive manner without repeating the misinformation.

Many people just listen casually -- and so they again are reinforced with the misinformation.

The case for the correct information needs to be stated clearly.
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# Jim 2011-06-22 10:49
Too bad your phones aren't working. I think this tendancy is as old as time. People's opinions are based on their preconceived notions and what they hear from friends and family. Look at views about blacks prior to the Civil War, views about Jews in pre-WWII Germany, etc., etc.
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# Karl 2011-06-22 10:50
I drove past a sign for two years that said, Oldest Dioseces in America. It should have said, Oldest Diocese in the United States.
One disclaimer cannot fix an abundance of incorrect information.

Bush's 935 lies, backed up by Fox news, cannot be easily overturned.

No one wants to be the Bad Guy. As a soldier, did I kill some innocent person based on a lie?
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