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Wednesday, 13 April 2011 16:04

K-12 education funding

Written by  Scott LaMar, Director of Radio Smart Talk

Radio Smart Talk for Thursday, April 14:

 

Governor Corbett's proposed state budget calls for cuts in a lot of areas – none, perhaps, more controversial than in education. In a previous program, we focused on the impact of his proposed cuts to higher education. Today, we'll explore what his budget cuts would mean for primary and secondary education in the Commonwealth, and then we'll discuss other challenges facing public schools in Pennsylvania, as we talk with Ron Cowell, President of the Education Policy and Leadership Center. Cowell is a former state lawmaker, and a member of a number of educational boards and advisory committees.

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# Renae 2011-04-13 22:08
Does Governor Corbett really think he can ignore the mandates of No Child Left Behind legislation and the PA constitution that mandates free quality public education for all children?
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# Debra 2011-04-13 22:47
I was disappointed to hear such an "us/them" tone in Corbett's budget address referring to teachers and taxpayers. Teachers ARE taxpayers. Teachers are struggling just like everyone else to pay their bills. I know teachers who took pay freezes to keep kindergarten in their district. Also, I would encourage anyone who doubts whether teachers are worth what they are paid in your local district to observe a class or two. I would encourage the Governor to do the same.
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# Robert Colgan 2011-04-14 09:23
The discussion about funding for schools . . .( Corbett's idiotic proposal to shift the responsibility to the local school districts and their most unfair property taxes) . . .misses conversation that is truly worth having:

is our educational system functional?

I don't think it is, for a simple reason: it disempowers the child.
It discards the child's RIGHT to be in a state of play, not work.
My proposal is a simple one: keep the existent facilities, K-8, but discard the didacticism. Adults would be there simply to assist the children if needed.
The children would play. All day.
Adults would not interfere with the children, but would identify which children need counseling from trauma.
Only adults who are loving and empathic would be chosen.
Parents could play also, but only if the children wanted them.
No attempt to "teach" the children at all.

Savings would be deferred to the high schools/vo-tech schools.
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# Jim Dillner 2011-04-14 09:30
Our legislators created a mess with the cyberschool requirement. Each student that leaves our school district takes approximately $7,000 with him out of the school funds. The voucher bill does a similar thing. I think with Cyber school, that at the most, the cost should be split between the state, local school district, and the parents, say $3,000 each. That would stop most of the frivolous jumping into cyberschools, with their free computers and free internet incentive. Also, I think that any voucher should not exceed the amount of taxes that a family pays to the state.
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# Lisa 2011-04-14 09:37
@Robert

That school does exist. It's called the Waldorf school. However, it is not for everyone or every child. I personally, loved learning and would have been truly bored by an "all play" type of education. All children learn differently, which as you inadvertently pointed out, is not being addressed by our educational system.
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# Lisa 2011-04-14 09:44
Elanco school district is addressing the loss of funding to cyber schooling by creating their own cyber school. Apparently, current legislation requires that if your public school has their own cyber school then you cannot attend a different cyberschool at the expense of the school district. Elanco estimates this will prevent the loss of about $200,000 to cyberschooling.
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# Pamela 2011-04-14 10:01
Why are we not addressing education policy’s treatment of students as objects to be acted upon by policies, teachers, and administrators? Students and their parents have the responsibility to work at being successful. We should not treat teachers/administrators as machines to produce grades using students. My husband is a school teacher and finds that it is becoming increasingly difficult to teach because students have no self-control or motivation, and their parents provide no direction. The best teachers, the best textbooks and standards, the best education cannot turn unmotivated, immature students into good citizens and employees.
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# Tom 2011-04-14 10:02
One question: When a child moves to another public school, who makes up the dollar difference between the state money the student brings with them and the cost of education in the new school?
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# Jim Dillner 2011-04-14 10:04
This first book appeal is baffling to me: At every thrift store, flea market, yard sale and library sale there are books to be had for next to nothing...25 cents is common. How is it that any child does not have a book? That is unbelieveable.
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# Robert Colgan 2011-04-14 10:05
Lisa,
You cannot say you wouldn't have enjoyed play because you didn't do it.

Children learn through play.

Children NEED to play to fulfill childhood.

It doesn't mean that books, computers, etc are out of the equation-----the premise is to empower the child to make his/ own choices about their learning, which our current system does not.
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# elise kay 2011-04-14 10:13
Private school families donate their tax dollars to public schools and only use the transportation money. We pay twice. We are taxpayers, too, who desire nongovernmental designed school days. Every family should be able to choose the education they want for their children.Re funding for public schools,let's fund public schools fairly by dividing up tax dollars statewide rather than by districts. That will provide equity. And let's also give families who wish their education tax dollars to go to schools they choose to have that option.
It's the American thing to do. Remember, private school families currently pay twice.
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# Jim Dillner 2011-04-14 10:33
If we are thinking about school funding, we should start by cleaning the slate off and thinking about basics. Look at the Amish and Mennonite schools all over the county. That model should teach us something: small schools, basic materials, and a certain amount of play in the day. The public schools often waste a lot of money on technology. The morning paper has a local school that is trying to decide if it should buy laptops for students. How absurd! Huge amounts of money for a program like that. Yes, students need computers, but all these schools have computers already, without buying laptops.
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# James Gates 2011-04-20 23:16
I finally had time to listen to this after my wife heard it said it was a must-do!

I'm so glad I did. Mr Cowell was outstanding. It was SO refreshing to hear a frank discussion of these issues without the overtones of anger and hatred that we too often hear in the media. Just a calm discussion of the issues we face and the consequences we risk.

Congratulations on an(other) excellent show.
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