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News Smart Talk Gov. Corbett's education reform agenda
Wednesday, 12 October 2011 16:05

Gov. Corbett's education reform agenda

Written by  Scott LaMar, Director of Radio Smart Talk

Radio Smart Talk for Thursday, October 13:

On Tuesday, Governor Tom Corbett outlined what he called his agenda for education reform.  There are four main components to the governor's plan: Tuition vouchers for poor students who attend the state's worst-performing schools, tougher evaluations for teachers, charter school reform and more business paid scholarships.

As is the case with most major policy plans, response to the proposal has been mixed and not necessarily along party or traditional ally lines.

On Thursday's Radio Smart Talk, Tim Eller, the press secretary for the Pennsylvania Department of Education will appear to answer questions about the governor's proposal.

Read witf Capitol Reporter Mary Wilson's accounts of Gov. Corbett's education agenda and reaction to it.

What questions do you have about the Corbett proposal?  What do you like or dislike?

Listen to the program:  

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# Deb 2011-10-13 08:39
Disappointed but not surprised. When we continue to measure a teacher's value or a student's value for that matter by a test that fails to accurately capture what students know, we are starting from the wrong place. I just find it ironic that Mr.Corbett gives a speech about the benefits of charter schools in a charter school that failed to meet AYP last year. In fact NONE of the charters in York City did well on the PSSA, which is all this administration is using to measure "failing schools". Mr. Corbett, restore funding to public schools so children can have the luxuries of things like small class size, kindergarten, guidance counselors and art and music education!
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# Jessica Shiffman 2011-10-13 09:14
The Governor recently cut state funding to poorer schools disproportionat ely as compared to fewer cuts in higher income school districts. Does that reduce the amount that low income families would receive since it's based on that state funding? How much would the vouchers be? How would the difference in the cost of private school be made up? Are other public schools required to take the students that wish to transfer?
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# Rusty Trepanner 2011-10-13 09:25
I was wondering why the administration is pushing the expansion of charter schools despite evidence from a recent study from Stanford University which found:

"Charter schools of all ages in Pennsylvania on average perform worse than traditional public schools,
and charter school students grow at lower rates compared to their traditional public school peers in their
first 3 years in charter schools..."

Does the administration's proposal to expand the number of charter schools, while cutting all other public schools, have anything to do with the fact that one of the Republican Party's biggest contributors is Vahan Gureghian, a charter operator who has made huge sums from his school in Chester County and that the administration's budget secretary Charles Zogby was a longtime, high-level executive of K-12, the operator of the Pennsylvania Virtual Charter school, a position he took right after resigning as Secretary of Education?
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# Tom Zug 2011-10-13 09:26
The guest seems to indicate the school faculty and administration are purposly failing to provide a good education. Does he think that they would not improve their scores if they had the resources to do so?
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# Susan Spicka 2011-10-13 09:36
It is not true that the cuts in state funding were the same percentage across the board. In fact, some wealthier school districts lost as little as 6t% of their state funding while other poorer school districts lost up to 21%.

My source is the Education Law Center spreadsheet of state funding cuts to education.
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# Robert Colgan 2011-10-13 09:40
Corbett's agenda is merely disguised teacher union busting.

The charter schools, the private schools, the "business-supported effort" all are non-supportive to teacher unions.

There is an agenda here-----but the educational system is not the primary target: breaking up the teacher unions is the target.

I hate political demagoguery.
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# George Randolph 2011-10-13 09:46
The callers are thus far missing the entire point of this legislation which is to push the school system toward privatization via increasing the availability of funds to send students to Charter schools and private schools while simultaneously eroding funding to public schools which will further their decline and thereby allowing even more aggressive legislation to send tax dollars to for profit schools.

This proposal is part of an agenda to benefit the Charter school lobby.
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# Fran Go 2011-10-13 09:51
This "scholarship" program, just like all the school voucher proposals of the past 40 years, is fraught with more failures of logic and unintended consequences than we can shake a stick at. First concern...a family of 4 living on $29,000 is so stretched that it is doubtful that 7500 students will show up that would find it practical to send their child to a distant school. Second...The speaker just said this will only effect 3000 school buildings. Gov. Corbett is proposing 7500 vouchers. That's a little over 2 students per building who will benefit. Third...under-performing schools rarely struggle because they have too much money and are located in the midst of affluent residents. So you want to punish them by taking money away from them and sending it to affluent schools? Does this make sense?
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# Fran Go 2011-10-13 09:58
Catholic schools reject students with behavioral issues and far fewer mandates to meet, which enables them to operate for less money; they pay staff less, etc.
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# lori 2011-10-13 09:59
i call BS on catholic schools giving thier students a better education: i have friends and work with those who graduated from catholic schools and they are LESS informed and educated than i am, and i am a product of public schooling. this is a gimmick to destroy a commonly-shared experience for all kids and to better dumb-down and streamline the kids for lower-paying jobs or military service, as they won't have enough education to get into college and find a good-paying job.
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# Thomas Bowman 2011-10-13 11:43
I subscibe to the adage "When the student is ready the teacher will appear". Except when we are in school, we must learn what we need and want when we need it and want it. Mandatory education was designed to keep children out of the work force as long as possible. The biggest problem with the classroom today is there are too many students who don't want to be there and they destroy the chances of educating those who have some desire to benefit from it. The schools have become the holding tank for these students. The solutions to the conflict need to be focused on getting the troublemakers out of the class or the school. You can't have the schools be a holding tank for those who are headed nowhere. This is what isn't fair to the children. Private and parochial schools don't have to keep these students and don't. That's why they do better. You don't follow the rules or care; your gone. We are looking at this from the wrong end. Reinstitute apprentice programs and work training sites.
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# Thomas Bowman 2011-10-13 11:56
Cont. "Oh wait, that would cost money" Over the last forty years the business community has stopped training programs and work apprentice programs. They want somebody else to train employees for them and/or steal them from another company where they have the skills already. I've read companies aren't hiring the unemployed even. "We can't make as much money if we have to train our employees". The promise of an education for all is an ideal not based in a reality. Those who want education will find it if it is available when they need it and want it. Those who haven't seen the advantage of education can do community work and learn about themselves and the world they live in.
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# Fran Go 2011-10-13 12:00
Thomas: There needs to be enough basic education for ALL youth to enable them to make political and daily life decisions...complete job apps, insurance forms, read news, etc. We must do all we can to motivate all students to learn. That being said, those in the upper grades who do not want to learn and persist in making it impossible for the others to learn should be streamed in a different direction. But that's what we have Career & Tech centers and alternative schools for. I think we all should be brainstorming for ways we could impart knowledge in less institutional settings, saving money on building maintenance and administration. I've always believed students would benefit by learning in less formal small-group settings.
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# Susan Spicka 2011-10-13 14:10
If anyone is interested in seeing a spreadsheet of the 2011-2012 budget cuts that clearly shows that wealthier districts received cuts that were a smaller percentage than poorer districts please visit the Education Law Center site here: http://www.elc-pa.org/budget2011.html

Scroll down a bit and click on the spreadsheet link. This will open an Excel document that details how much money each district lost.

It is interesting to see that many legislators who voted for this budget voted to cut a lot more funding, both in terms of dollars and in terms of percentages, from schools in their own districts than from other districts in PA.
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# Scott LaMar 2011-10-13 14:47
Just to let everyone know. We plan to produce additional programs on the governor's plan within the next few weeks that will include those who don't support aspects of it. Today's program was designed to give someone in the administration an opportunity to lay it out but it is too important an issue to not re-visit soon.
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