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Friday, 10 July 2009 14:34

poolA swim club near Philadelphia is at the center of what many say is a classic case of racial discrimination. Late last month, a group of predominantly black and Hispanic children from a summer camp in Philadelphia visited the Valley Club in Montgomery County. A camp official says they heard club members making racially-insensitive remarks and took their own children out of the pool. Then last week, the swim club refunded the camp's membership check. The swim club's president added fuel to the controversy when he said the campers changed the complexion of the pool. Later he said he used a poor choice of words and meant the campers made the pool too crowded.

 

Whatever the motivation, the pool controversy shows that race and racial differences are still big issues in American society.

 

With that backdrop, WITF is embarking on "Managing Our Diversity," a series devoted to examining the divisions, lack of communication and mistrust that sometimes exists in our diverse population and what can be done about it. On Monday's Radio Smart Talk, we want to hear from listeners on the issues they feel are most important or are not discussed enough publicly or honestly when it comes to racial, ethnic, religious, or gender issues.

 

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written by Jerry Stirkey , July 13, 2009, 10:42:52 AM

As a Black man; responsible, educated, employed, and contributing to his society, I can freely point out the elephant in room. Black people are lacking in the 'progress being made' department. We have far too many poor (in both finance and image) representatives of what it is to be Black. One panelist mentioned "the news media." Are Blacks responsible for all crimes on the nightly news? No. Is the black community large enough to account for the number of newsworthy crimes? No. Per-capita we, as blacks, are shooting ourselves in the foot (and each other) on a daily basis. The condition of our communities, our families, our style of dress and our general inability to be BETTER is the problem. Racists don't have a whole lot of fodder for conversation when it comes to Asians in their communities.
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written by robin , July 13, 2009, 10:46:57 AM

We are afraid of what is strange to us...It's about fear, insecurity, Years ago, employers would tell employees to fear strange races coming in to take their jobs, fostering division to keep unions at bay.The crucible of World War two put to bed that notion - when all you cared about was that that guy in the foxhole had your back not whether he was Irish, Polish, Jew, Czech or a farm kid from Iowa. The pity is that Blacks weren't integrated in the service yet.
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written by Henry Hill , July 13, 2009, 10:53:05 AM

It seems that or idividual and collective judgement has degraded so deeply that we can at no point begin addressing our diversity from a common point. Our life experiences at their root are more alike than different. Our judgements are clouded by complexion determined by race, religion, culture, ethnicity, and communications. Any real solutions must be built upon on commonality. Leadership and followership are responsible for the sacrifices necessary to move toward a truly grander society.
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written by Lauren , July 13, 2009, 11:07:14 AM

There is only one Race - the Human Race. We are all out of Africa.We are now different colors due to where the various groupes settled and langues also evolved too because of the vaste distances between populations.If you had to walk or ride a horse five miles could be a great distance.
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written by Judy , July 13, 2009, 11:35:50 AM

As long as we continue to exist as a people we will have some sort of divide. We as people fail to realize the good that lies within and focus on the negative. I am confident that if we start to look deeper into the hearts of people rather than on the surface we can start to appreciate the man or women within. We are on the pulse of a new dawn with President Obama and we must seek to be better. One story I read in John Maxwell's book, speaks of a young girl going to the circus and wanting cotton candy. Her father comments that he does not believe she can eat all of it. The little girl responds, Dad, I am a lot bigger on the inside. As a nation, as a group of people we must start being "bigger on the inside". Divisity is each of us and all of us, let's be bigger on the inside.
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written by Angie , July 13, 2009, 12:05:07 PM

I would like to invite listeners to participate in a racism study circle, facilitated by the YWCA of Lancaster. Study circles are not classes or trainings, but rather discussion groups for 6-12 individuals who meet weekly for five weeks for guided discussion on Facing Racism in a Diverse Nation. Groups meet at various times and places and there is no cost to participate. Call Lucy at the YWCA of Lancaster at 393-1735 x239 for more information.

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written by Bruce , July 13, 2009, 12:15:32 PM

I think a good example of how people are afraid of potentially offending others can be found in your own discussion this morning. You made several references to how far we have come by electing a black president. It is a fact that Mr Obama is biracial, yet he is overwhelmingly referred to as being black. Are we, and specifically the media afraid that by acknowledging his factual ethnicity we would be somehow minimizing this still historic occurance, perhaps upsetting or offending the African American community?

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written by robin , July 13, 2009, 12:37:57 PM

Hammerstein said it in "South Pacific", "..You have to be taught.."you've Got To Be Taught
to Hate And Fear,
you've Got To Be Taught
from Year To Year,
it's Got To Be Drummed
in Your Dear Little Ear
you've Got To Be Carefully Taught.

you've Got To Be Taught To Be Afraid
of People Whose Eyes Are Oddly Made,
and People Whose Skin Is A Diff'rent Shade,
you've Got To Be Carefully Taught.

you've Got To Be Taught Before It's Too Late,
before You Are Six Or Seven Or Eight,
to Hate All The People Your Relatives Hate,
you've Got To Be Carefully Taught

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written by robin , July 13, 2009, 12:41:55 PM

We aren't born with prejudices, they're LEARNED
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written by robin , July 13, 2009, 12:51:29 PM

Bruce If the President were just a Mr Obama, and was stopped while driving down Market St one evening, do you think he would he be described as "Biracial"?
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written by Jerry Stirkey , July 13, 2009, 01:03:44 PM

I think that the comments, added on this post after my own, are disingenuous. We aren't here writing a Michael Jackson lyric. We're talking about why affluent whites at a swim club had prejudices against some minority youth. I'll reiterate my opinion-(this time in no uncertain terms)that the feelings honestly come from an American condition, not entirely the fault of the affluent (or even middle class for that matter). As Black people, we don't care enough about ourselves and our communities to care enough about what people think of us. That's why Black youth dress the way they do. It's for the entertainment and vaildation of like-minded Blacks. How others perceive us and how upwardly mobile society scoffs at us is immaterial. As a Black man, I resent being lumped in with what should be the underbelly of Black society. I'd also wager that this "group of predominantly black and hispanic children from a summer camp in Philadelphia" were less-privileged kids. It's a shame that these kids felt the ugliness of racism but again, "The elephant in the room" is the perpetual cycle of poverty and irresponsibilty from which these kids likely come. Perhaps I'm making a sweeping generalization though. Maybe those kids were from a summer camp full of middle class, two-parent-household, quiet, respectable, well educated, talented youth that were truly being unfairly labeled.
In closing, I'll leave this post with the wise words of my father, bestowed to me as a little black boy in suburban Carlisle, PA; "It'll always be less about your race and more about your class. Bigots will have nothing on you when you have more money than them!" ... sad but 85% true.

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written by Joyce M. Davis , July 13, 2009, 01:19:23 PM

Bruce raises an interesting point. In Louisiana where I was born, laws determine that anyone was black who had 1/16 of black blood. Other states even had laws stipulating even lesser percentages. With regard to Obama, I think he refers to himself as black.
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written by Joyce M. Davis , July 15, 2009, 12:33:59 PM

I have heard many black professionals complain that they still believe they suffer from racist stereotypes,despite their education and higher economic status. I was listening to a group of Latino lawyers interviwed on CNN who complain that they suffer from such stereotypes and disrespect when they walk into the courtroom. They said people assume they are a court reporter, or perhaps the wife of a lawyer, but not the lawyer herself. This would seem to argue against the theory that economic status or even educational status eliminates all vestiges of discrimination.
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written by Marcia Ringgold , July 16, 2009, 03:29:32 PM

Home is not where children will learn equality. I feel it would be progressive to start children with peer talks starting in kindergarten with unbiased teachers as facilitators to abolish racism. Home is one of the places children learn racism, why else would a Northern man fly, or display a confederate flag with gusto and pride? I have many reasons for my thoughts on this subject. 1. is Love thy neighbor, but how many of us really do that?
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